hehe this thing is still chugging along over two years later
Replying to @cvennevik
Yes. A fair few of these arguments from the agile beginnings feel like revolution was happening and there was an us and them. First heard an echo of my thoughts in this post doriantaylor.com/agile-as-tr…
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so i'm in the habit of tailing my logs (cf nitter.net/doriantaylor/sta…) and every once in a while i'm like omg! a referrer! (you would not believe how slim those have gotten in the last few years) anyway, it doesn't take watching it long to see hits come in for that piece
sir this is an arbys
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so, the proliferation of apps and a preoccupation pRiVaCY (tbh it's not totally spurious) basically means what was once a valuable source of intel sort of proffered as a mutual courtesy is basically nothing but shellcode, spam, and phishing
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and i mean, an increase in noise i can deal with, it's the *decrease* (in absolute terms) of signal that kills like we're almost at the point that if you want to know who's been looking at your website, you have to get that information from google (this is far from incidental)
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tbh i'm pretty confident the goog's ulterior motive to get people to switch to ssl is that the Referer: header doesn't get sent when you traverse from an encrypted site to an unencrypted one my reaction any time google wants you to do something "because privacy"
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GIF
and i suppose i should forestall any hot takes by saying i'm not saying encryption is bad or noreferrer is bad, i'm saying they have consequences (also ssl → ssl still sends a referrer unless you tell it not to)
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it's pretty well-established that certain vested interests want to kill the url, which is actually an insanely powerful and individually-empowering invention no urls == you need an intermediary to locate shit

May 4, 2022 · 1:55 PM UTC · Twitter Web App

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think like aol keywords or whatever. remember those? of course urls are so damn useful that we'd still be using them internally and everything under the hood would still be a web service, just with a nerfed app front end
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indeed i wonder what the percentage is of mobile apps that are *not* just shrinkwrap around some rest api somewhere
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indeed i suspect without intervention the url will go the way of rss: absolutely 100% still in service for infrastructure but normies never interact with it directly
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